Charles
Olney (@olneyce): Hello,
and welcome to our first Slack Chat of 2019. I hope everyone had a good new
year, and is excited for a big year. To kick things off, I thought we should start
with some fun stuff before turning to some of the more depressing elements in
recent news. So…it’s a World Cup year! What is everyone most excited for in
2019?
RJ
Allen (@TheSoccerCritic): I
really am looking forward to watching the first time teams in the World Cup.
Allison Cary (@findingallison):
I’m excited to see Scotland and I’m excited to see if France can keep
playing quality football.
RJ Allen: Kim
Little on the world’s stage? Yes, please.
Allison Cary: My
sister is going to school in Scotland so it’s particularly exciting for this to
be going on while she’s there.We’re hoping to catch a game in France.
Charles Olney: My
honest answer is simply that I’m excited for the incredible opportunity to be
in Europe this summer, which means I’ll be able to see a bunch of the World Cup
in person. And I’m obviously excited for the chance to see the US make a deep
run. But in terms of storylines, I think there’s just so much potential. Could
France finally win a title? Could England or Australia take that next step?
Could some of these new rising powers like Spain and Italy make the leap into
the inner circle? Can some of the new teams put their mark on the tournament.
RJ Allen: I have
a lot of questions about the World Cup but you’re right, there are some really
amazing storylines.
Allison Cary: So
much potential.
Charles Olney: I’d
love to see the US win, but I have to admit that a new winner would probably
make for a more interesting tournament.
RJ Allen: US,
Norway, Germany, and Japan are the only winners. It would be nice to see
another name added to the list.
Allison Cary: If
France wins, per a previous slackchat, I’m obligated to move to France. I’m not
opposed to that lol.
Luis Hernandez (@radioactivclown): I’m looking
forward to the matches and if New Zealand can get out of the group. Plus how
the NWSL will handle absences.
Charles Olney: If
it were to be a first-time winner, who do people think is most likely? France
is probably the obvious pick, especially given their recent victory over the
US, but are people still high on some of the other big teams?
RJ Allen: I would
have guessed Australia two weeks ago.
Allison Cary: I
would say Australia but I’m not sure with the latest coaching drama.
RJ Allen: Now? I
don’t know. France or maybe England? I’d love to see Canada get one for Sinc.
Allison Cary: England
maybe? I’m not sure if they’re ready to go all the way.
RJ Allen: I
really would like a team other than the US to win. I think it’s better for
soccer world wide if other teams can take down the US now and again.
Allison Cary: I
agree with RJ.
Charles Olney: I was looking over the betting odds this morning, and put up a tweet. I have to say that the odds look a little off to me, but I’m curious if others think so.
RJ Allen: I do
not think these betting books know Germany’s state of affairs right now.
Charles Olney: I
still think the German team has a lot of potential, but yeah, I certainly don’t
think recent evidence suggests they belong in a tier with the US and France.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
I’m also not that confident in Japan.
RJ Allen: This
is, to me at least, proof that while betting markets are not great now, they
might drive some change. The house wants to keep their money. So they are going
to need some better stats and better people predicting these things. They might
drive that area.
Charles Olney: I
think it’s interesting that Spain is right up there. I really enjoyed watching
them against the US this week, but I felt like they were still a little under
the radar. I wonder whether some of that is people transposing their judgments
about the quality of the men’s team.
RJ Allen: Brazil
being so high might be the same thing.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
I think Spain could make a decent run, but I don’t see them going all the way. They
looked better than expected against the US, but not quite there yet.
RJ Allen: Can we
all agree if North Carolina was in the World Cup (at full roster) they would be
on the top 5 in the list?
Charles Olney: Definitely.
I was actually thinking about them and Lyon and how they’d fare if they
attended the World Cup. And I think it’s a good sign for the game in general
that we’re getting close to the point where the very highest level of soccer is
at the club level rather than the international level. We’re not quite there
yet, but the tipping point might be coming soon.
Charles Olney: Okay,
so turning the attention toward the US in particular, I’m curious if anyone has
any broader thoughts about the recent friendlies. Anything to worry about
there, or just a normal way to kick off the year?
Luis Hernandez: No
worries for the first two matches after months being off for me.
RJ Allen: I think
a lot of the worry about the games are going to end up not being founded. They
have been off for a few months, it’s their pre season, a lot of players aren’t
playing or have been hurt. If they look like this in May I will worry. But
right now, no.
Allison Cary: I’m
not worried about the U.S. Maybe it’s just me, but I learned more about the
U.S. opponents in these two friendlies than I did the U.S.
Luis Hernandez: I
enjoyed how Spain moved the ball. Didn’t know they were skilled to do that for
their team.
RJ Allen: I agree
with Allison. I think we learned a lot about France.
RJ Allen: We had
no real answer for Henry. And while Horan should be able to match her, this
game she very much did not.
Charles Olney: One
impression I got from talking with the French players and coaches at that game:
it mattered to them. A lot. They really wanted to lay down a marker, and it
showed in the performance. That’s a great sign for a team that’s often
struggled a bit to handle the pressure. I think they’re ready this time.
RJ Allen: That to
me is a big deal. France doesn’t seem to really fear the US, at least in that
match.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
which caught my eye. France seemed really ready to prove that they belonged in
that top tier.
Charles Olney: The
US may still end up beating them in the quarterfinals, and we may end up
talking about yet another France team that underperformed. But right now, I
feel as confident about France as I ever have.
Allison Cary: They
weren’t intimidated. They played their game. If they do that in June… they’re
dangerous.
RJ Allen: Also,
can we talk about the packaging of the games themselves for a moment? They were
not really featured games. They weren’t cash cows. They were in Europe. The
game against Spain was in the middle of a day. That feels big for the US in
general.
Charles Olney: Yeah, that’s a great point. The US has often treated friendlies more as opportunities to make money than anything else. And they arguably still have a few of those coming up later in the spring. But on the whole, this seems like a team that’s keeping their eyes on the prize. And that’s a good thing.
Charles Olney: So,
that’s a lot of positives. But I do want to focus our attention on two other
stories that have been dominating the news lately, which are less encouraging.
One is the confusing and troubling story surrounding the coaching change at
Australia. The other is the persistent moving disaster that is Sky Blue FC.
Let’s start local and discuss the unfortunate team in New Jersey.
RJ, you had some reporting that just came out about events
there. And we’ve had a couple other stories recently about the continuing
problems. At this point I almost don’t know where to start.
RJ Allen: So I
have had a lot of conversations in the last few months with people that are no
longer with Sky Blue. About a week about I spoke to someone still much more
connected.
As I think you and I have spoken about on the 123rd Minute,
Reddy had largely escaped conversation. And this person made it clear that is a
mistake.
Charles Olney: I
almost feel like we spent so much time in 2018 talking about the problems at
the management level that we all really wanted to construct a narrative where
the coach and the players were innocent victims just trying to survive in a
cruel world. But your reporting makes it seem like Reddy maybe should have come
in for a lot more criticism at the time. It was certainly strange to see a team
that honestly had a lot of talented players do SO wretchedly bad week in and
week out. And it was peculiar how the coach never really seemed to come in for
the kind of criticism we’d expect.
RJ Allen: The
information I have really does paint a picture of someone who sucked in as much
power as they were able, due in large part of the issues in management, and had
a hard time using that for the benefit of the players.
Charles Olney: It
does strike me as a situation where it would be incredibly hard to succeed. So
it’s possible that in more favorable conditions, Reddy might have sailed along
just fine. So I certainly hope that none of this ends up taking away attention
from the major problems at the top. But it’s definitely important to look at
all parts of the picture.
On that note, as we are talking here it’s been two weeks
since the draft. There, Tony Novo promised significant news on progress would
come ‘within 30 days.’ Is anyone holding out hope that we’ll actually see
something meaningful there?
Allison Cary: Nope.
Charles Olney: And
if not, do we think Sky Blue is going to actually make it to the end of the
season with enough players to fill a starting XI every game?
RJ Allen: No.
Allison Cary: No.
RJ Allen: They
might have enough players because as we all know people dream of playing pro. There
are enough ex NCAA players in New Jersey to fill in an XI. Look at Sky Blue’s
roster in the past. They have always counted on local players. More than most.
Charles Olney: I
do still hold out a little bit of hope that the remaining players manage to
band together and fight this out, like you’d see in a classic sports movie
where the underdogs find a way to show everyone their spirit. And there IS
still a decent amount of talent theoretically on that roster. But as each week
goes on, I find it harder and harder to be positive.
RJ Allen: My
question is though, what does that buy? If they win games, what does that buy
other than some cover to keep the team going? It might make the players a bit
happier but all it does it prolong the fate that is written on the walls.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
perpetuating a bad system isn’t necessarily good. Unfortunately, Sky Blue
struggling along could do more harm than good.
RJ Allen: And I
admit I am a bit pessimistic about all of this. But still.
Charles Olney: At
this point, I think the best case scenario is a modestly positive year, which
will allow everyone to feel good about moving on during the next offseason when
they’re pushed out of the league…or when someone who will make real changes
comes in to buy them out. But I agree: doing just well enough to survive
without making any real changes might be even worse than ‘raze the ground and
then salt the earth after.’
Charles Olney: Alright,
so another troubling story: Alen Stajcic, the coach of Australia, was let go
under the cloud of a recent report describing ‘toxic’ conditions on the team.
It’s a very strange story with quite a lot of it hidden from view. I’m curious
if anyone has any clear thoughts about what it all means.
RJ Allen: I think
the federation has handled this horribly. Even if he was released with 100%
cause, the federation makes it look like a hit job in a way that makes them
look worse.
Charles Olney: Can’t
argue with that. It does seem like, based on the information they seem to have,
firing him was the right call. But the manner in which it’s been done has been
very rough.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
I don’t feel like I have enough of the story to make a clear judgment. But it’s
been weird.
Charles Olney: Which
doesn’t really do any favors to anyone.
RJ Allen: Players
seem caught off guard too. Which is never a great look.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
their statements haven’t been a position reflection on the federation.
Charles Olney: Which
makes me wonder about those players who contributed statements about the toxic
environment. Are they just hanging back in silence, feeling like they were hung
out to dry by this process? Are they feeling pressure to say positive things
now, because that same toxic environment is lingering, as many of the players
who liked Stajcic have said positive things?
It would be particularly cruel to make it even harder for players to be honest and clear about how they’ve been treated because the Federation doesn’t want to air their own dirty laundry.
RJ Allen: Without
the details of what a “toxic environment” is, I’m not sure what to think. Does
it mean not welcoming newer players or players without the pro polish to them?
Does it mean abuse? Without details it’s left up to us to put name to it. Which
is never good.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
especially considering the England scandal is still fresh in a lot of people’s
minds, it’s not hard to assume the worst.
Charles Olney: There
have been some more details in some of the media reports that have come out
after. Things like abusive comments, body shaming, harassment that’s unrelated
to on-field performance. All of which does sound like a really negative
culture. But none of those are official statements, so we still have to wonder.
And yes, I totally agree with Allison that the context of the Mark Sampson
affair absolutely can’t be forgotten.
RJ Allen: Seeing more senior players supporting Stajcic just makes it more difficult for everyone. Having Kerr and LDV and so on look like they are blind sided is going to make a lot of the fans question this all. Plus an assistant quit in protest.
Charles Olney: Alright,
I think we’ll probably have more to say on this subject as we potentially get
more information. But for now, why don’t we turn back to some more positives,
and discuss the NWSL. We have the draft, and some trades to mull over. And I’m
curious what y’all think about where teams stand going into 2019. Who has made
progress? Anyone who looks like a good bet to break into the top 4? Anyone who
made the playoffs last year that you think is in danger of dropping out?
Bearing in mind that this will be a strange year, where many
of the top teams will be losing huge portions of their roster for half of the
season or more. Is there anyone that will be relatively unharmed by the World
Cup that looks poised to take advantage of that opportunity?
RJ Allen: North
Carolina is going to win the league by > 9 points. NTers or no. That team
will win on the underdog story all their “best” players are gone.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
I agree.
RJ Allen: I think
Chicago has a really good shot this year. Seattle with Groom will be fun too. And
now that we’re in this part of the season I can’t wait for the Laura Harvey
mega trade.
Allison Cary: Yeah,
I like Utah.
Charles Olney: That’s
definitely the thing that’s most been missing this offseason.
Allison Cary: Definitely.
Charles Olney: I’m
personally very torn on Houston. I think there’s a decent chance that they
suffer a bit of regression to the mean this year, dropping down a bit simply
because they probably overperformed their talent a bit last year. On the other
hand, they’ll have a roster that’s comparatively less hit by the World Cup. And
maybe they actually take a step forward. If so, they could actually even sneak
into a playoff spot. I’d certainly love to see a new team make the playoffs –
whether Houston or Utah. It’s always good for a new set of fans to have a
playoff team to support.
RJ Allen: If Daly
is there all year, and I don’t think she will be, and Mewis the Elder is back,
they have a really good shot.
Charles Olney: Anyone
have any thoughts about Washington? Their new coach seems to think very highly
of himself. Anyone believe that he’ll be able to back it up?
Allison Cary: Not
really. I just haven’t seen anything promising.
RJ Allen: I think
that he is going to have some :fire: quotes from post games.
Charles Olney: I’d
like to believe they have a plan. But…it’s a little hard to see how it’s
supposed to work. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for them, I guess.
Alright, any final thoughts on the world of women’s soccer
before we wrap up for the day? Any other stories that have piqued your interest?
RJ Allen: I am so
glad we got to see soccer from the US. I missed it.
Allison Cary: The
Afghan women’s national team story has gone a little quiet. It’s hard not to
feel pessimistic there, but I think it’s important to just mention it.
RJ Allen: I
agree.
Charles Olney: Absolutely.
There’s just so much depressing news out there. It can feel overwhelming trying
to keep up with it all.
Allison Cary: Absolutely.
Charles Olney: That’s
kind of a grim note to finish on, but I think that’s alright. There’s plenty to
be excited about too, of course, but it’s important to always remember how much
work there still is to do.
Alright, thanks everyone for participating, and thanks to
the folks out there for reading. We’ve got a big year coming up and are excited
to get to share it with you.